Your post is not appropriate for this forum please refrain from any political issues. PERIOD
so I’m a lil late to the Convo but has everyone forgotten…
Have you actually looked into the brands you buy from Amazon. Almost all of them are Chinese manufacturers with a rebranded “Americanized” name specifically for selling on Amazon. That’s not even including the deals Amazon makes with the manufacturer to slap it’s name or Amazon sub-brands name on their products for a win-win.
I’m not saying it’s a bad thing. I’m happy with many of my purchases. I spent 2 months looking for a mattress on Amazon before choosing an Avenco mattress. Its great I love it and would purchase another one. Just don’t be oblivious and make smart purchases.
This was talked about on the reddit AMA https://www.reddit.com/r/wyzecam/comments/ou4og6/were_the_cam_plus_team_ama/h6zz7cq?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Yep, yep, I was actually the one who brought it up in the Reddit AMA so we could get it addressed from a real Wyze source. Here is what WyzeShawn said about this issue for those who would prefer to read it here instead going to an external source to search through and try to find the applicable posts (but I added direct links to each comment for those who want to go view it themselves):
Source Direct Link about Hualai & Wyze Trademark
Source Direct Link - Another question of mine where he clarifies a little bit more about Hualai:
(He technically answered the bottom one first, then answered the top one afterward…I just wanted to post them in order of most relevant to our current topic first)
I can’t speak for anyone else, but it sure sounds like Wyze is pretty emphatic that they aren’t owned by Hualai, and Wyze is totally separate just as most of us have been saying. I love how he basically said they had more important concerns with their supplier at the moment (getting enough camera’s built by them is a higher priority for them right now than beefing with them about the China trademark that they don’t need right at the moment anyway), but they’ll get around to investigating it. They’re busy enough with another lawsuit against Xiaomi and Roboroc right now anyway. One battle at a time.
I thought he was also pretty clear about how their AI stuff is all independent and in-house with strict data/technology access policies. I think he did a pretty decent job addressing this “Hualai/China” nonsense. I am grateful he chose to humor me on those questions so I could post a response from a Wyze employee here.
With the political atmosphere of tech security, I’m not surprised they kept AI development in the states.
The shortage in material is going to continue untill the Mountain Pass Mine In Nevada is in Full Production, estimated 2022.
It would be pretty great if Wyze would allow owners of their products to help train the AI. Something like object recogintion. search a database to see if an object you own is already logged or not. If there is missing data allow the owner to scan and register the object then upload it for review. This would greatly diversify the data. I don’t think owner submition of facial recognition data should be in any general consumer product. This is an area I really hope wyze doesn’t follow in Amazon’s footsteps.
You’re in luck! Wyze appears to agree with your wish/suggestion! Review this thread on that subject:
That’s really good, thanks.
ODM, or original design manufacturing, is also also referred to as “private labeling.” This is where an importer selects an already-existing product design from a factory catalog, makes a few small changes and sells it under their own brand name. Changes can include things like packaging or product bundles, colors and branding, and some limited adjustments to components or functionality
OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturing, and refers to products that are fully designed by one company and then licensed out to a manufacturer to produce.
The US will loose substantial self reliance if we delegate all manufacturing to any foreign entity. We ( consumers ) are just too predictable in that we buy at lowest cost. That would map to a certain countries leaderships desire to displace one sector after another. Would wyze be willing to source their hardware from domestic ( US) sources? Ok . Call me protectionist
The US will loose substantial self reliance if we delegate all manufacturing to any foreign entity. We ( consumers ) are just too predictable in that we buy at lowest cost.
That ship left port 20 years ago. The US cannot compete with foreign labor, because US workers can’t live on $3 (or less) an hour, as can workers in dozens of other countries. Are you personally willing to pay 5 to 10 times as much for everything you buy in order to stop delegating manufacturing to foreign countries? Protectionism has a very substantial cost. Perhaps you are willing to pay that cost, but the average American is not. You can buy a Mac Mini for $700, or MacBook Air for $999, both made in China. Or you can buy a Mac Pro, made in Texas, for $6,000 to $20,000.
You can apply the same test to clothing, appliances, or just about any other product.
And a re-berth stateside has been made nigh on impossible by the dictates of global financial capitalism.
Demonizing any particular nation (‘they are benefiting at our expense’) is kind of futile in an irreversibly global economy.
One writer’s synopsis from 1976:
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Thank you for that! These nice, well-intentioned kids think they are discovering a relatively new issue and imagine they can roll back history to a time that only existed a century before they were even born, whereas this dilemma was already treated back in our economics classes in the 1950s. Protectionism was already dead and buried way back then. The chances of digging it up and restoring to life now are zero.
The global economy is not going away. Whether we like it or not is irrelevant as we are realistically powerless to reverse it.
We’re living in a global capitalist wet dream and ‘they’ are just about to… finish.
Wyze is glad to draft behind that vision.
What about the skepticist?
He or she is busy searching DuckDuckGo to confirm whether the Churchill quotes are accurate.