Streaming Kb/s speed

[G2740]

Streaming live view has always been jittery and say a person walking will go into rapid traverse for several steps.

OGs still show kb/s on the live view screen, no others do that I have unless theres a setting I’m unaware of. Pan V3 does not, V4 does not.

At least in OGs, you can see the stream jumping all over and not anywhere near what they should be or even close to steady.

I’m sure this is on the Wyze end choking them down for less file storage size, upload speed, etc. at the cost of jittery & jumpy video live feed.

Maybe even trying to accomadate users with weak Wi-Fi too.

If they do anything RTSP that “may” have to change or be selectable and accurate. For local storage.

In comparison I have a 4k Reolink Lumas Pro which is accurate and steady. From fluent to 4k streaming on 5ghz.

More costly, but performs as advertised and in Home Assistant. Built for local, internal Ai, fully HAOS compatible.

Is it Wyze choking them down? Are they considering opening the stream speed up if local or will that just happen automatically?

Any admins or users or Wyze have any comments or thoughts?

[bryonhu]

I started out with Wyze in the V1 - V2 models timeline, then I upgraded to V3 and about that time Wyze began it’s down hill run…..

I have both Reolink Lumus Pro 4k’s and Trackmix 4k PTZ’s which have been replacing Wyze cams in my phase out of Wyze Toy Cams.

I like the Reolink TrackMix better than the Lumus Pro 4k after extensive evaluation, but both are very good cameras that blow away any Wyze cam😁

Comparing Reolink to Wyze shows just how high the compression is with Wyze.

In fact the Wyze 4k cam can’t even really send true 4k video at the compression levels Wyze uses.

Much happier with a Professional grade camera by Reolink as opposed to a Hobbyist Toy Camera by Wyze

[G2740]

I’ll keep the PTZ in mind, also waiting on their new flood PTZ to show up if it hasn’t already.

I’m starting to see the light as well, works in Home Assistant is nice too.

Unfortunately Reolink makes nothing for a window mount, so once my OGs take a bow.

I’ll continue using V4s as OG replacements or whatever the latest model becomes. Indoors in every windows gets pretty good coverage. Even thru screens for early warning.

I forgot some features of OG and V4 etc. that I like, listeners for Smoke and CO in almost every window and they have always worked. So far.

The extra smarts, I’m not sure they work yet, like detecting garage door open, gunshots, crying, glass break etc etc. they’re there though. No loss on most of those, excepting glass break.

Questionable whether glass break works, as my garage going up and down triggered glass break at least once, like person sometimes triggers and no person. Not useful for security at 3AM.

I’d miss the listeners, about it. I can stick ZigBee vibration sensors in the middle if the windows for glass break. And I can buy listeners.

So in the end just the extra coverage is useful.

[dave27]

My guess would be your 2.4ghz is not keeping up. Mine are all smooth but I’ve got a pretty fine tuned 2.4ghz network as there is a lot of congestion around me. I do have one cam on the fringe of the coverage area and sometimes I’ll see what you’re referring to briefly.

All the cams use about the same final bitrate, somewhere in the neighborhood of 1mbit/sec. If they were to reduce the compression (and increase the bitrate) you’d probably have even worse problems.

5ghz will have much more available bandwidth, but the distance is shorter, especially when going from inside to outside.

[G2740]

Not arguing or disagreeing either. Just supplying facts & data.

There always a chance for a glitch somewhere.

I could switch the Lumas to 2.4 but that’s a hassle.

I’ve never had steady Wyze kb/s.

The computer room camera and several other OGs bounce like a basketball all day long, no disconnects, computer room OG is indoors, all within feet of either the Mesh router or one of two access points.

V4s, Pan V3s are basement and garage or outside on or under the deck.

The 2.4ghz broadcast out thru plaster and brick outer walls at least 40+ yards, estimated by Orbi as 7,500 sq ft. I think in a 1,750 sq ft all brick rancher.

The 5ghz camera is outside, between two steel french patios doors on that strip of wood in between. Rock solid even at 4k.

I agree 5ghz is cleaner, less clogged and shorter range. I’ll have to test range when I buy another Lumas.

Orbi app says 2.4ghz channel is average at the moment, supposedly auto switching.

I’m in the country no interference known, nothing can stomp on me, lol, closest neighbor wifi about 75 yards and the only one within a 1/4 mile.

Up is about 42, down is about 450.

I see no issues, yet, not that there couldn’t be some.

Wyze’s own network analyzer;

All test right beside the computer room OG.

Network Analyzer app;

WifiMan;

[dave27]

You’re using 40mhz channel width, turn that down to 20. 40 is just asking for 10x the interference and signal quality problems. Also looks like all your mesh nodes are pretty strong signal, you actually have too much wifi going on, which will cause problems as well. With a mesh system there should be a small amount of overlap, not all competing strong signals (especially when they all use the same channel like Orbi does). You probably have twice as many nodes as you need.

[G2740]

I’m trying it, it’s enabled by default, per Orbi, And I used to have it off, trying it now.

I had some older junk Simplisafe cameras that it helped. (My mistake lol)

However those are bring replaced and don’t matter, unless and until I get a class action in PA.

In testing, it didn’t help but didn’t hurt either that I can tell The OG still bounces from around 95 to 325. I’ll leave it off for a while to see if anything improves.

Didn’t affect the Lumas either that I can see. Good or bad. Can be off in the country, Inhave no congestion. We’ll see. I’ll also try disabling the center access point and reboot the system amd see what happens.

Per Orbi;

On a NETGEAR router, the 20/40 MHz coexistence setting enables the router to use a wider 40 MHz channel for faster speeds on the 2.4 GHz band but automatically switches to a narrower 20 MHz channel to avoid interference from neighboring wireless networks. This feature is enabled by default and acts as a “good neighbor” policy for wireless networks, though it can sometimes lead to connection issues or slower speeds if disabled in favor of forcing a wider 40 MHz channel.

[G2740]

Just the router and one access point didn’t make a difference either. At max approx range from each other.

[dave27]

The bitrate will fluctuate, that’s totally normal. The question is whether the issue you’re seeing (regardless of the bitrate display) improves or not.

A single centrally placed access point can be more than enough for 1750 sq ft including some outdoor coverage, but depending on the shape of the house, having one at either end might be better. Turning down the power level can help reduce saturation/too much overlap.