Apple HomeKit Integration

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I am running Hoobs right now but had to remove the integration as it kept locking my Wyze account out due to 2FA. In that process I found out that Wyze doesnt have an easy way to unlock an account so a consumer is stuck waiting 24 hours for an automatic unlock. Wyze doesnt have a way to easily create something like specific app passwords which don’t require 2FA so I can either put Wyze on hoobs and risk continually locking myself out or just forget about it and change out my products. I have a mix of Eufy, Aqara, Philips Hue, Lutron Caseta and now Nanoleaf. All of the products I use from all of them work with HomeKit and I think are made very well. Aqara’s door and motion sensors have been extremely reliable and very fast. I have triggers to light up the Aqara Hub’s light when doors and windows open (all through HomeKit) and the light comes on almost instantly. The new Nanoleaf Essentials bulb with Thread technology works amazingly well as long as you have a HomePod Mini. Its extremely fast and doesn’t use wifi which can clog up networks once you have too many devices. Consumers want ease of use as well as choice and right now Wyze isn’t giving consumers what they want. Looking at the new product line-up some don’t integrate with any smart assistant and some just work with Alexa while Google is “coming soon”. Its hard for me to believe that Google integration is going to be fixed in the near future since its been months since the cams worked properly for everyone via the Google Hubs.

With that being said we need to understand that it looks like the main focus for Wyze is to push as many products out as fast as possible and try to keep users in their ecosystem paying for services as long as they can sustain it. I don’t agree with this approach and hopefully they understand sooner rather than later that other companies see them and are watching what they do since they have disrupted the market on pricing. Companies like Meross have learned that consumers are willing to pay a little more to get a product that natively works with HomeKit. Most of their products have a Homekit versions and an Alexa/Google version which is a tiny bit cheaper. At the end of the day I like Wyze and will continue to support them just because I like to have new tech around to play with but that’s about where it stops for me until they can integrate with Homekit. If people ask me for good products that integrate with Alexa I always point out Wyze after I try to get them to convert to HomeKit. My hope is this changes in 2021. I would really love to see Wyze bring out Thread enabled bulbs, light switches and plugs that can work natively in HomeKit but only time will tell.

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Hey at that price I would change too! My 4 LIFX bulbs were 159 alone. While I appreciate the HomePod mini, it’s still too big a price point to make it convenient. Till Apple comes out with something one a price level as the dot it’s still unreachable as my main assistant. Plus with the iPad not able to use multiple voices yet that makes it hard to be helpful. Every ecosystem and company has its limits and its deliverance of what the crowd wants.

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Please make WYZE HomeKit compatible. For me it will achieve three things: (1) Increase my level of trust in WYZE the company as a whole (otherwise, from my viewpoint, I’m not convinced that it isn’t another tech company cutting corners to sell stuff), (2) increase my trust in the security/privacy of these products, and (3) eliminate reservations from buying more units of just about anything they put out.

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I’m trying WIZ and Meross now since they support Siri Shortcuts and/or Apple HomeKit. Unfortunately I won’t be back to Wyze until they support Apple.

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Even if you had to make the cameras cost more for a “HomeKit-enabled” option of the Wyzecam V3 or the Pan V2, I would pay extra for that. I think many more would as well.
Thank you for continuing the work on this potential integration!

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I’m interested in how to do this ?need HomeKit support ASAP

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I’m one of the original WyzeCam buyers, and I’ve been very impressed with what y’all can do at your price points, as well as the overall business within of the company.

However, I am rethinking the compatibility of the Wyze ecosystem with my life. I’m liking the home AutoNation side of things, but I’m leaning towards the Apple side, as we have so many Apple devices as is. Apple HomeKit is a guaranteed way to keep Wyze products in my home.

I realize I can make it work with Amazon Alexa, but I think they already know enough about me, so I’m going down the Apple HomeKit route.

Are there any plans to add Apple HomeKit? I’m willing to buy all new devices if they would fit seamlessly into my Apple system.

Thanks!

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I have had smart devices for a good number of years now: Arlo cameras, Nest, Wemo, Scout Alarm, and Rachio. Each has its own app.

I started moving towards HomeKit. I like the fact that I can control everything from just one app and can easily share with my wife. A big plus is that it also works on any other Apple device.

I discovered Wyze at the same time.

HomeKit is great, we know why.

At the same time I love what Wyze has. Price is one. They are also so many devices, they all work via a single app and now they also added a professionally monitored home security.

I read this entire thread and it doesn’t seem like Wyze will be adding HomeKit support any time soon. It’s probably not a priority for them right now. Their value is to release as many devices as they can, make them “good enough”, make them all work together and charge a small a monthly fee for extra features.

HomeKit is great from a customer side. But, once you add a device to the Home app there is little differentiation - they all look/work the same (perhaps there is less value for the vendor?).

On the fence…

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I have a number of Wemo outlet plugs. The last to I picked up from Costco was under $10. That is less that $5 each. You know what? They support Apple Homekit, Google, and Amazon Alexa!!! All 3 of them.

I think Wemo is a great company as they are really supporting Apple. If THEY can do it, why can’t WYZE?

Wyze has a few products that the lack of Homekit support is not a HUGE deal. But there are other products I just refuse to buy and so have gone with someone else.

I have to say, my Ecobee 4 supports Homekit, Google, Alexa and Smartthings along with IFTTT. Glad I have it as WYZE doesn’t support Homekit with their Smart Home Thermostat. I have a Rachio 3 for my lawn sprinkler controller which again supports everyone. Wyze and their Smart Sprinkler controller? Nope, No Homekit support!!!

It’s really just to bad. Their new Home Alarm monitoring service. No Homekit support and so I won’t be getting it. Even though I’ve been thinking about a system for quite some time. Right now I have someone home most of the time. So they’re the home security. That won’t last forever. I have to place limits on what I buy.

I have to assume there will NEVER be homekit support as things stand. So don’t buy anything from them expecting it to come in the future. You can’t assume that. IF it ever comes, it may require you to buy newer hardware. You just don’t don’t. This goes for any type of smart device from any company. Don’t assume something is coming in a future upgrade. Look elsewhere for what you need that have the feature you want NOW.

I made the mistake with the Smart Hub controller I got from my blinds. They advertised all 3 were coming, starting with Alexa. Then later Google with Homekit last. The Hub was $90 for this little tiny thing. I got it, and all the Homekit stuff disappeared!!! I’m stuck with 2 blinds I can’t control with Homekit, forcing me to use Alexa on my Ecobee 4. I hate Alexa as it’s so wordy and dumb. Google works similar to Siri, but I’m not a Google person. I don’t want the Google Spying.

Wyze, a lot of interesting products,… many I’ll end up not buying. That’s to bad. But WEMO supports Apple Homekit users!!! they have a new Outdoor Smart Plug supporting SIRI of course!!! I have to put my support for those supporting Homekit. They just don’t have the products Wyze does these days.

I do have a couple Waze Outdoor Cameras that have been working pretty good for me so far. Not having Homekit is not a huge deal. My Wyze Cam V2 I have in my garage his works pretty reliably also. I have their Scale which works well, and lack of Homekit is not huge deal with it either. I have a V3 camera that’s been on order I wanted to check out, and the Headphones I just ordered. So some things I am buying. Other things I just refuse to do so at this point in time. It is what it is.

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I agree. In general there is little incentive right now for Wyze to introduce HomeKit right now. From Home app perspective all devices look the same (regardless of the vendor). It seems they are trying to build their own ecosystem by releasing so many (different products) products. Almost feels like they are building their own mini-HomeKit like ecosystem.

At the same time, they could introduce a bridge (like WeMo has) and enable current devices to be HomeKit compatible.

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I agree. Although I know there is never complete privacy, Google and Alexa are the least private of the bunch. That is not opinion, there are federal investigations and settlements to back it up. I would love to know why they choose not to go with HomeKit. I love that Wyze keeps their products inexpensive, and maybe that’s why they don’t add HomeKit, but it seems like a HUGE market they are missing.

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As I said, a got a 2 pack of Wemo Smart Plugs for $9.95 at Costco. That’s under $5 each and they support Apple Homekit, Google and Alexa. So they somehow can manage to support all 3 cheaply.

I would understand if things were how they were in the past when Apple required its hardware encryption chip. That hasn’t been the case for a number of years now. It can all be done in software.

Considering half the U.S. population has iPhones, it seems a little strange to not support Homekit.

Wyze is not going to tell anyone either way if they have plans. The best thing to do is if you want/need homekit support, look someplace else. You can’t assume things that may or may not happen. Some things from WYZE I can use without Homekit support. It’s not the end of the world. It would be nice, but not a big deal. Other things it’s another story and the lack of homekit support is a big Negative like their new Home Monitoring system. No Homekit support is a big negative for me. Otherwise, I’d be looking at getting it. Oh well.

I do think WYZE is losing a lot of sales, but maybe they don’t care as it’s not enough for them to spend time and money on supporting. There are other options and so you’ll have to look there and not here for them. It is what it is.

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I believe the HomeKit market is still too small (even thought half the US population has an iPhone). It’s a very passionate and growing community - absolutely. First, you need to have a hub for HomeKit to work. Second, many people (with iPhones) when buy smart devices simply use the vendor’s app and think about HomeKit.

It’s also possible that at the price point at which Wyze sells its devices, adding HomeKit support would bring up the price and they would lose one of their main advantages.

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The desire for HomeKit for me is all about the automation, and Siri integration. As much as I love Wyze their automation is pretty lacking. Like the ability to have lights turn on and off based on Sunrise/Sunset. Why isn’t that an option yet?

But with HomeKit integration it opens so many doors for automation. If I wanted to control my old crappy LIFX bulbs mixed with Wyze bulbs I would be able to with HomeKit. Or when my Wyze lock unlocks I could have HomeKit open my garage. Things like that would be so so nice. Plus Apple has made it much easier to make things HomeKit capable.

I’m still dreaming that this happens some day…

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How about just starting off with Wyze swithc control in Home app

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I don’t think a HUB is such a big deal. That is only if you want to go outside of your local Network onto the Internet. For local control, it’s not needed, but outside, you just need an AppleTV or a Homepod or Homepod Mini. The Mini is a pretty cheap $99 option.

Again, getting WEMO Spart Plugs at basically $5 a pop which supports Google, Alexa and Siri, means, price-wise, shouldn’t be a big deal at all. Time spent supporting Siri, would take a little more effort, effort is money. If WEMO has no problem supporting Homekit, I really see zero reason why Wyze can’t either.

Bu the way, just got my Wyze Headphones today. I’m shocked that it’s Sunday when they were delivered and I expected them on Monday. As it had said business day. Great!!! I’ve tried them out a little. They sound great so far and the Active Noise Cancellation seems to work well. They work with any voice control or native Alexa, but Siri seems to work just fine with a double tap on the right side. So I do like that. It’s not Homekit support, and really do they need that? Well they support Siri anyway and so I can control my Homekit devices using it still since I can get Siri. So it’s good enough.

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WYZE needs to hurry up. You are creating a lot of smart products which is good but none of them have HomeKit compatibility. Eventually I will look elsewhere. It a shame because they’re well priced, look good and function well. Just missing HomeKit.

Will the existing products support HomeKit or only newer models.

You have my vote but need to see it materialise.

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Well said ! HomeKit compatibility is key…I started off with WeMo, but they are lacking in many ways. Wyze is killing it in hardware quality, versatility and price point, yet strangely lacking in HomeKit integration (the one thing WeMo actually did do right).

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I think if you don’t have hub (which gives remote access) - you lose a lot of value. Would you use Wyze if you only had local access?

Homepod is expensive. Apple TV is better and the new Homepod Mini is reasonable. You can also use an iPad but it always has to be on (and charged). It’s definitely doable but it’s extra friction (compared to a solution such as Wyze).

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I actually don’t see the hub as a big deterrent. Even if I didn’t have an Apple “hub”, having the automation ability of HomeKit even locally has major value. In fact most of the automations I run occur when I’m already home.

That being said, I have the HomePod Mini now and that is another driving force of me wanting to have Wyze be HomeKit capable. $99 makes HomeKit way more accessible for all.

If you didn’t have a HomeKit hub you could always use the Wyze app for remote control as needed.

My fingers are still crossed that HomeKit capabilities will come in the future.

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