# Wyze Socket Without Camera?

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**Category:** Cameras\
**Tags:** lamp-socket-v1\
**Created:** [December 23, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-socket-without-camera/208285 "2021-12-23T00:22:53Z")\
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> [@palazzohudson](#):
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> As far as I can tell regardless, you have to have a camera with it.

That’s _sort of_ true. I don’t have any Lamp Socket v1s, but my understanding with those is that they require a camera to be physically tethered via its USB data cable in order to control at least one socket (like if you have several sockets in a group linked with Bluetooth). With Lamp Socket v2, no physical cable connection is required, but a compatible Cam has to be linked to it for setup and control. Once Lamp Socket v2 has been added, each socket has its own Wi-Fi connection to your home network. In my current use, I have two Lamp Socket v2s controlling lighting when triggered by a Cam v4 in the same room, and a third Lamp Socket v2 in another room also activates when those lights turn on.

I believe that this also means Lamp Socket v2 _should_ be available to control with Automations, meaning that a user should be able to activate lights with that version independent of what its paired Cam is doing, and [that’s something I’ve mentioned to Wyze](https://forums.wyze.com/t/lamp-socket-v2-is-falsely-claimed-to-be-compatible-with-cam-pan-v4-and-can-not-reliably-be-motion-activated/337106/9), because it appears that they’ve built an incomplete Automations implementation for Lamp Socket v2.

> [@palazzohudson](#):
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> Wyze advertising it as a magical socket and not mentioning a camera anywhere is silly

What was your (and your dad’s) expectation for either of the Lamp Socket models? I’m not seeing any mentions of use for Lamp Socket v1 _without_ an attached Wyze Cam on [its product page](https://www.wyze.com/products/wyze-lamp-socket), and [Lamp Socket v2’s product page](https://www.wyze.com/products/wyze-lamp-socket-v2) says in the FAQ section that a compatible Cam is required:

> [@](#):
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> ### Can I use Wyze Lamp Socket v2 without a Wyze Cam?
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> No, Wyze Lamp Socket v2 requires a compatible Wyze Cam for initial setup in the Wyze app and most other functions. Features like motion light, person-triggered lighting, and manually turning on/off the lamp socket in the app require a Wyze Cam. Without a compatible Wyze Cam, you can only use the lamp socket as a USB power source.

Wyze can always do a better job with the clarity of their messaging, though. I don’t know how many times I’ve said that in this Forum.

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