# Wyze can FORCING monthly fee **URL:** \ **Category:** Cameras\ **Tags:** cam-v1-v2\ **Created:** [March 15, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-can-forcing-monthly-fee/221518 "2022-03-15T22:44:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bittersgm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b2d939/32.png) [@bittersgm](https://forums.wyze.com/u/bittersgm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-can-forcing-monthly-fee/221518/1 "2022-03-15T22:44:42Z")
Either stop nagging me about paying a monthly fee or return my $$. I am sick of being bagged I will purchase NO other Wyze products if this continues ---
**Author:** ![SlabSlayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@SlabSlayer](https://forums.wyze.com/u/SlabSlayer)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-can-forcing-monthly-fee/221518/2 "2022-03-16T01:38:50Z")
@bittersgm, welcome to the community! This is a community of fellow Wyze users helping each other expand their experience and solve problems. Wyze support is not monitoring threads although some Wyze Team members do post here to help us out. I do understand your frustration with the most recent rollout of the 4 tier plan. But, you are not alone and you are not being forced to pay and subscribe. There is a way to keep what you had previously without paying for a subscription… You just have to set it up. If you share a bit about what is in your Wyze setup, what service level you had, and what you want out of it, there are some real geniuses in here who can help. I hope I can.😊 ---
**Author:** ![bittersgm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b2d939/32.png) [@bittersgm](https://forums.wyze.com/u/bittersgm)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-can-forcing-monthly-fee/221518/3 "2022-03-17T17:12:05Z")
I have a Cam Pan Would like to keep the same features I have today, approx 15 sec event recording ---
**Author:** ![Customer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@Customer](https://forums.wyze.com/u/Customer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-can-forcing-monthly-fee/221518/4 "2022-03-17T17:17:01Z")
> [@How to Keep Your Cloud Video Recordings Free with Cam Plus Lite](https://forums.wyze.com/t/how-to-keep-your-cloud-video-recordings-free-with-cam-plus-lite/221831/): > > A video from one of the Wyze founders: [[How to Keep Your Cloud Video Recordings Free with Cam Plus Lite] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aXyP6rHmBw) You have to do a little fancy footwork to dodge the guilt and still get it for free. Some good screenshots: > [@Bait and switch](https://forums.wyze.com/t/bait-and-switch/221810/7): > > I don’t see an image. Here are screenshot I just took from the services page, in order. ---
**Author:** ![SlabSlayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@SlabSlayer](https://forums.wyze.com/u/SlabSlayer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-can-forcing-monthly-fee/221518/5 "2022-03-17T17:31:23Z")
You can do that. But you must migrate your cams over to CamPlus Lite. You can do it for free on the website. Here is a post that will show how to do it. Post back to update us on your progress. Good luck! > [@How to turn on Cam Plus Lite](https://forums.wyze.com/t/how-to-turn-on-cam-plus-lite/220481/19): > > Yes, I see your dilemma. I was having exactly the same issue in testing and I have the most up to date app on Android 2.28.2.111 I am pretty sure the update from your current version, 2.28.2.109 was to handle the introduction of CPL. It might make a difference to adding to CPL. I was getting the same results as you testing it several times with cams open for assignment but no way to add to CPL: Then I went to the webpage under my account and clicked on the add a… ---
**Author:** ![InkMing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b2d939/32.png) [@InkMing](https://forums.wyze.com/u/InkMing)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-can-forcing-monthly-fee/221518/6 "2022-03-17T20:08:02Z")
> [@Customer](#): > > You have to do a little fancy footwork to dodge the guilt and still get it for free. If I just want to access the recording that is on the SD card in the camera, why should I have to pay for anything or subscribe to anything? I am not asking to see something out of the cloud… ---
**Author:** ![SlabSlayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@SlabSlayer](https://forums.wyze.com/u/SlabSlayer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-can-forcing-monthly-fee/221518/7 "2022-03-17T20:20:10Z")
Doug, if you just want to access the SD Card recordings, you do not need any subscription for that so long as your cam(s) support it and your SD is configured properly. What kind of cams are you using? That is important. ---
**Author:** ![Customer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@Customer](https://forums.wyze.com/u/Customer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-can-forcing-monthly-fee/221518/8 "2022-03-17T20:23:41Z")
> [@InkMing](#): > > If I just want to access the recording that is on the SD card in the camera, why should I have to pay for anything or subscribe to anything? You don’t. SD recording hasn’t changed. It’s accessible on the View Playback timeline for the cameras just as it always has. As @SlabSlayer implied, the Wyze Cam Outdoor model is another story. ---
**Author:** ![PCHearn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@PCHearn](https://forums.wyze.com/u/PCHearn)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-can-forcing-monthly-fee/221518/9 "2022-03-18T02:25:18Z")
InkMing - When you access the recordings on the SD card in your camera, do you use the Events tab at the bottom of the main/Home screen of your app? If not, how do you access the recordings on the SD card? We’re all just trying to help you. ---
**Author:** ![bittersgm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b2d939/32.png) [@bittersgm](https://forums.wyze.com/u/bittersgm)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-can-forcing-monthly-fee/221518/10 "2022-03-18T12:06:09Z")
I press View playback at bottom of the screen ---
**Author:** ![InkMing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b2d939/32.png) [@InkMing](https://forums.wyze.com/u/InkMing)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-can-forcing-monthly-fee/221518/11 "2022-03-18T13:10:05Z")
Got it all sorted out now. But I was having some cameras having to ask for a subscription and other ones showing events. Also saw the post about the Cam Lite script and followed through that. Thanks!! ---
**Author:** ![SlabSlayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@SlabSlayer](https://forums.wyze.com/u/SlabSlayer)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-can-forcing-monthly-fee/221518/12 "2022-03-18T13:15:40Z")
🕶 Awesome! So glad it worked! Thought they might have fiddled with the UI since the updates just to mess with our minds 😜