WiFi-enabled wall switch that does not require a neutral

I just use clear packing tape on the top of the switch, (I have the large rectangle ones). Otherwise someone might turn off the side flood light, that originally was not smart, and the switch is a normal rocker switch. If they try to turn the switch off it won’t budge.

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It would be great to have a 2 wire light switch like that provided by X10 back in 1980s. i still have 3 of them.

Here is some info for Wyze Imagineers!

X10 Light Dimmer Switch info from 1980s without neutral wire


1. Wyze website- Switch requires neutral

2 X10 Light Dimmer Switch without neutral (from 1980s)

3 X10 light dimmer switch - more info

4 X10 Light Switch schematic

5 X10 light dimmer switch - more info

6 X10 Activehome smartphone app


any updates ? I added some info below that might be of interest to engineers, programmers

Yes, I enjoyed reviewing the schematics. Up until Wyze came out with their long requested light switch, I was still using a bunch of X-10 devices (formerly BSR). I had alarm systems in a couple of friends/families houses. When they move out, I reclaimed the equipment. I also stocked up on a bunch of most everything as spares, because I felt X-10 was soon to disappear. I still have most of it stored in my seldom used electronic shop. Such is life.



" WiFi-enabled wall switch that does not require a neutral

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This looks like it has been in development since Sep 2022? Are there any updates in this forum in another section? or ?


Latest update from Wyze’s VP of Product:



Thanks for update.


Are there any plans to have a smart switch that can work without a neutral wire?
I have an old house with no neutral wiring option.

Welcome to the Wyze User Community Forum @adrianmike! :raising_hand_man:

Yes. It is in development now. We are all awaiting it with much anticipation.

This was posted two posts up:

Posting to show interest in the wifi switch without neutral requirement. I would like to get several of them.

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Like others in this thread, I’m eager for a Wyze switch with no neutral wire. Has anyone heard any updates? Thank you in advance.


I haven’t heard anything in months, but I feel a little reassured that it is still listed as “In Progress - Development” and hasn’t been updated to “Maybe Later” yet.

I would not be surprised if They finish development this year and launch this new switch at the beginning of 2024 though, then it would not be part of the “Year of the Camera” stuff, but they’d have something ready for the start of the next year.

We should try to ask about this in the next AMA, and see if anyone is willing to comment on it.


Thanks for update 6 momths ago, and a few days ago.

. Glad to see this is in testing in some homes…
if volunteers are required, I will take 3!!


It’s been over a year now since the revelation that we’d be lucky enough to turn our old houses into smart homes. How long does it take to have people test these products (no neutral wire switches)?
And how soon before it goes out in the market?


They had this in development at the end of 2022, but then a lot of people kept telling Wyze to go back to their roots and focus on cameras and existing products, so they declared last December that 2023 would be “the year of the camera” and they put most everything else on hold, including this product. They still launched a couple of non-camera products this year that were already mostly finished with all the R&D steps, but anything else they could easily suspend, got suspended.

I am hoping they will finally pick this one back up in 2024 when the “year of the camera” is over.
I would certainly love to start expanding my smart home with something other than cameras again though. I don’t mind Wyze making cameras their priority, but I will be very disappointed if they basically drop everything else for longer than just 2023. I’d prefer to grow my smart home with Wyze stuff so I know I’m being treated fairly with reasonable prices.


ahhh, thanks fr this explanation.

I am ready for the "Wyze Year of Home Automation/Security"

A lot more Wyze products would sell (to me and others) with better Alex integration, and Google…

It is confusing how individual functions are enable into Alexa rather than all of the functions of a device… The programming for integration seems so product specific??

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This was asked about in the recent AMA and thought some of you would like an update:

I gave up waiting because if the AMA news. I have already installed a handful of GE Cync No-Neutral switches. They were normally $45 @ Lowes. I just bought the 8 remaining switches I needed on sale thru Amazon for $24 each.

GE CYNC Smart Light Switch, No Neutral Wire Required, Bluetooth and 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi 3-Wire Smart Switch, On/Off Paddle Style, Works with Alexa and Google Home, White https://a.co/d/h4XNP48

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Oh, those look pretty good. Great price too! I am tempted! Thanks for sharing! I might give in to buying some of those.

I’ve been eyeing these Aqara relay modules which will turn any lightswitch or outlet into a smart one (actually can control 2 at a time, and no neutral wire needed, and you can use your same normal looking light switch or socket, etc):


I watched this review on it and it nearly has me convinced to buy a bunch throughout my house to turn lights and outlets into smart ones even while keeping the existing ones as they are:

It’s about $10 more than the GE ones, but I think it has a lot more options, including support for more systems like I want (Home Assistant). So, just another alternative that people can consider.

I think I want to make sure all my lighting stuff from now on will work locally though. Cloud-dependent solutions just have too much of a delay for lighting automations to have to go from my house to the brand’s servers. then to Alexa’s servers for the automation, then back to the brand’s servers to trigger the automation, then back to my router then over to my lights. There often ends up being 3-6 second delay (or more) for such lighting automations, and that is a long time for a light to be delayed. I don’t mind it too much, but it feels really weird to my wife and guests to have such long delays.

Smart Relay Modules and Switches have been out there for quite some time. Sonoff has been making some very reliable switches and relays for a long time that are quite inexpensive ($10 to $20).

The problem with these is that they need to be able to fit into the junction box with the existing switch or a special low profile switch has to be swapped in. In older construction houses, that switch box is very tight and shallow as it is and it is steel. Modification of the junction box to fit the unit isn’t an option and an upgrade to today’s deeper boxes is incredibly costly and time consuming as it would require cutting the plaster or sheetrock away from the box to upgrade.

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