Who owns the clips?

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Wyze posted on X?

“Hey

@FBI

we got 10,000 Wyze Cam Pan v4 with 4k footage ready to send to any area you tell us you need them.”

This is terrible, no matter which political side you’re on. What happened to our privacy?

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Maybe they are trying to SELL cam, probably fake anyway.

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Seems real, the post is here.

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Just like @Antonius , I think they are trying to sell cameras, not footage.

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Imagine you’re donating cameras, will they come with footage? Read the post, the word footage is there, even qualified with 4Kdescription>

Edit; I don’t think Wyze can afford to donate 10,000 cameras. They even had a hard time paying the tariff for the last camera shipment. But they can surely afford the “free” 10,000 clips.

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Yet Another Reason Reolink is Better.

You have the only control of recorded video, either on your SD card or Network Drive or both. (* excluding cellular SIM cameras as they have a Free Cloud)

So Wyze isn’t making enough profit off subscriptions, so let’s sell-out the customers videos to LE….

Great Idea Wyze, I support this :rofl::joy::rofl::joy:

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With Footage = The cam will record 4 K in my opinion.

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I think the context helps it make more sense.

What happened was:

So the answer to this:

Who owns the clips?

Is that you own your own clips. Wyze isn’t saying that they will take other people’s event videos and give law enforcement access to the cameras for everyone in Utah near the shooting.

They were offering to send the FBI Pan V4 cameras in higher resolution to help with their manhunt to identify the guy and see where he goes. In this case, if the FBI activated and set up the cameras in public areas, then the clips would be owned by the FBI because they would be their cameras, just like your camera events are yours. If anyone else wants them, they need your permission or a court order.

While I’m sure they knew the FBI wouldn’t accept the offer, and it was mostly rhetorical, I’m sure they would’ve sent some if it truely would’ve helped.

Based on public statements and videos on their Youtube profile, there are also several Wyze employees who live in that area, and one of the owners went to college 5 miles away from where it happened. Wyze cams are actually pretty popular in that area.

But they are not offering to send the FBI anyone’s event videos.

I generally don’t like the idea of the government over-surveillance though.

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I have no problem supplying relevant clips to FBI. But that statement is a blanket (10,000 clips) to give them everything. I’m not from that place, nor do I know anyone from that place. Including all of the clips in the submission could jeopardize the privacy of individuals.

It’s highly unlikely UVU even has a single Wyze camera. Like @bryonhu stated, most establishments use industrial grade cameras.

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I can see how you came to that interpretation because their statement is worded slightly ambiguously . What they mean is that they have 10,000 wyzecam pan v4s that they are willing to mail to them to residents in that area which will allow them to record footage with all of those cameras. They are not saying that they found 10,000 already recorded clips or events from that area that they are ready to send to the FBI. That’s not what they were saying at all. They are just saying that the 10,000 new cameras that they would send to the FBI residents in that area to help voluntarily share events to the FBI are capable of recording footage to help them in the manhunt to identify and catch the guy.

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What would 10,000 new cameras accomplish? It’s like closing the barn doors after the animals have left. They are offering already recorded clips that the FBI can process.

I’m going to note the wording: “with 4k footage ready to send”

The clips are already recorded.

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At the time of the offer they hadn’t identified or located the suspect yet. They had some rough ideas of where he went. If the suspect had hidden somewhere to lay low, then Carpet bombing 10K 4k cameras in an area would make it more difficult for the perp to move around without being seen.

Obviously the offer is no longer relevant. The guy made his escape out of the area to southwest part of the state and is now in custody, so those cameras wouldn’t change anything now, but at the time, nobody knew if he still around there laying low (maybe a student who lives there). Those assumptions turned out to be wrong though.

This isn’t the first time Wyze has offered free cameras or other things to help organizations or people in need. They famously gave the Amarillo Zoo 80 cameras after a lower quality IR camera they had went viral for what people were calling a Bigfoot or alien sighting. Wyze told them they should have better cameras that can do color night vision, and sent them 80 free cameras to surveil their property better than the one they had. They’ve done similar things for other groups and other individuals, sending free devices to help with various public needs. That’s all they’re doing is the same thing they’ve done many times in the past already, offer to send a bunch of cameras where they could potentially be used. Since they’ve done this many times before, in context, it’s easy to see that that’s the same thing they’re doing now. As a company, they can show they’re contributing to the public good, they’ll be able to write off a portion of it on taxes as a loss, and to some degree it fits in with marketing and positive community perception. Basically a win-win-win.

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If Subpoenaed WYZE will hand over the video read the user agreement fine print

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I really doubt the FBI has the manpower to set up 10,000 new cameras during that time frame.

Besides, I already pointed out above that they are referring to recorded clips; not new clips.

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Do you really believe there are 10,000 WYZE Pan V4 cams in the vicinity of UVU or Orem? :laughing:

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Tell Wyze, they suggested that figure.

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I think you are misunderstanding the WYZE post. Period

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That’s not an issue.

There’s a difference between a subpoena and Wyze offering indiscriminately sending clips.

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If that were so, why the silence? There’s not an official clarification, for as people claim, the post is vague.

Silence only makes things seem worse, though I see how it can give an air of deniability.

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Which is why I pointed out that:

Yes, I saw you said that, I just don’t see anywhere Wyze actually said that. I think it’s a misunderstanding/misinterpretation of what they said. As I said, they should’ve worded it less ambiguously, but they were talking about new cams being sent that would be able to record new footage.

Do you have a different source where they were more clearly offering already recorded clips?

Exactly. I’ve been there (I had friends and family who went to school there). I can virtually guarantee there’s no way that’s possible right now.

I also would have expected Wyze to offer event videos for any of their cameras and not just one camera model. If they were talking about sending already recorded clips. It would confuse me why they didn’t offer for all the other camera models and instead limited the offer to pan V4.

Honestly, I don’t really think clarification is necessary. Most of the comments and shares I’ve seen about them saying this, understood that they were offering to send new cameras that could record footage to help out in the manhunt.

This is what they said (clarification added in green highlight to help any misinterpretation):

Hey @FBI we got 10,000 Wyze Cam Pan v4 with 4k footage [by which we mean it has 4K resolution recording capability] ready to send to any area you tell us you need them.

They are offering to send pan. V4s. And thus, if the cameras aren’t already there then there’s no way they could have events clips ready to send when the cameras don’t even exist in that area yet. They are saying they will send the cameras to any area, which means they aren’t there yet and they don’t currently have event clips. They said 4K footage, and they’re just telling the FBI that they will record footage in 4k for them instead of the 1080p resolution that all the other clips recorded the suspect in. It’s hard to get a lot of details about the suspect and all of those 1080p resolution events, so they’re pointing out that it would have been a lot more useful if they had been recorded on the 4k camera, which these will offer.