# Roku cams so much wyze **URL:** \ **Category:** Watercooler\ **Created:** [October 15, 2023, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-cams-so-much-wyze/278043 "2023-10-15T06:10:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![zlw720](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/258eb7/32.png) [@zlw720](https://forums.wyze.com/u/zlw720)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-cams-so-much-wyze/278043/1 "2023-10-15T06:10:49Z")
So…. Did Roku buy Wyze or just their Copyright for their cameras? ---
**Author:** ![Seapup](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/seapup/32/118966_2.png) [@Seapup](https://forums.wyze.com/u/Seapup)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-cams-so-much-wyze/278043/2 "2023-10-15T09:47:34Z")
> [@Believe your supplier is selling the exact same product to Roku now](https://forums.wyze.com/t/believe-your-supplier-is-selling-the-exact-same-product-to-roku-now/243825): > > Recently got an email from Roku on new home security with cameras, door bells, light bulbs, outlets, etc. They are the exact same as your products. Just an fyi > [@Roku and Wyze](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-and-wyze/243931): > > I just received an email from Roku advertising smart cams, doorbells, lighting, etc. The items look exactly like Wyze products. Has Wyze partnered with Roku to sell Wyze products under the Roku name? > [@A new partnership for Wyze](https://forums.wyze.com/t/a-new-partnership-for-wyze/243735): > > I wonder when Wyze and Roku planned to announce something? > [@Roku Using Wyze Devices](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-using-wyze-devices/266874): > > Looks like Roku Security systems are using Wyze devices. At least their Facebook ad looks like all Wyze products. What’s up with that! ---
**Author:** ![carverofchoice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/carverofchoice/32/107068_2.png) [@carverofchoice](https://forums.wyze.com/u/carverofchoice)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-cams-so-much-wyze/278043/3 "2023-10-15T21:10:09Z")
Summary: They have a partnership. Wyze helped them get into the smart home market. As I understand it, Roku mostly uses Wyze’s servers, Wyze’s cloud, Wyze’s AI, Wyze’s suppliers, etc, However, their systems are entirely separate and their hardware is such that they have different firmware that can’t be flashed from one to the other. Main difference: You can use Roku’s cameras on Roku TV. ---
**Author:** ![TomG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/tomg/32/86260_2.png) [@TomG](https://forums.wyze.com/u/TomG)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-cams-so-much-wyze/278043/4 "2024-04-14T18:58:49Z")
> [@carverofchoice](#): > > can’t be flashed from one to the other. As someone born in the ShowMe state, and named after Doubting Thomas, I can attest that Roku and Wyze do not play together. I bought a Roku camera that was identical to the Wyze v3 except for anything that said Wyze now said Roku, App look and feel are the same. I tried adding the Roku camera to the Wyze app but got no farther than the QR code not being recognized. Got the Roku app and tried adding the v3. Nope. I expected as much but had to see for myself. I didn’t go as far as loading Wyze firmware on a SD card and forcing the flash. Doubt that would work. ---
**Author:** ![peepeep](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/peepeep/32/107148_2.png) [@peepeep](https://forums.wyze.com/u/peepeep)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-cams-so-much-wyze/278043/5 "2024-04-14T19:32:59Z")
> [@TomG](#): > > I didn’t go as far as loading Wyze firmware on a SD card and forcing the flash. Doubt that would work. You stopped at the last aid station before the finish line and took a nap. 💤 Where’s that Doubting Thomas ‘kick’? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Lester](https://forums.wyze.com/u/Lester)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-cams-so-much-wyze/278043/6 "2024-04-14T19:38:07Z")
There are no Wyze servers, cloud. They use AWS like everybody else ---
**Author:** ![carverofchoice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/carverofchoice/32/107068_2.png) [@carverofchoice](https://forums.wyze.com/u/carverofchoice)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-cams-so-much-wyze/278043/7 "2024-04-14T21:07:03Z")
> [@Lester](#): > > There are no Wyze servers, cloud. > They use AWS Roku using AWS is correct, Wyze also uses AWS. But to clarify, Roku also using AWS to mimic Wyze’s setup does not mean Roku is not leveraging Wyze services or servers in any way though. It is my understanding that Roku cameras are actually using Wyze AI for their AI detections. Wyze AI is indeed leveraging AWS, but it is not something provided by Amazon, it is a Wyze proprietary service, and Wyze has servers for it…whether they use their own or lease some in some way, who knows. My statement was simply indicating that even though both are using AWS for their cloud storage, I believe Roku uses Wyze for their AI detections. Last I heard this was absolutely the case. However, if something has changed, I would love someone to link me to a source where Roku developed their own AI services. I would be curious to learn what else they may be considering different from Wyze in that regard now that they’ve had some time to start doing their own thing if they wanted. > [@TomG](#): > > I didn’t go as far as loading Wyze firmware on a SD card and forcing the flash. Doubt that would work. I think the reason this doesn’t work is because it is blocked by something called “Secure Boot”…the purpose behind this is a security feature to check the digital signature of executable files before allowing them to run which makes it so malware can’t compromise your devices. Sadly, it also prevents us flashing firmware between the 2 cameras too. This is something Wyze started putting into some of their cameras as extra security since before the Roku partnership announcement. They were asked if it was also implemented on the newest V4 camera, and the Product Manager confirmed that this is the case: > ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/original/3X/2/5/25b779d5984371eb6976fefa3907e87fa31e7283.png) ---
**Author:** ![TomG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/tomg/32/86260_2.png) [@TomG](https://forums.wyze.com/u/TomG)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-cams-so-much-wyze/278043/8 "2024-04-14T22:19:49Z")
> [@peepeep](#): > > You stopped at the last aid station Let’s say it was successful. Now I have a Roku branded camera running Wyze firmware. The Roku camera is selling for $19.88 at Wally World and the v3 is selling for $14.99 on the Wyze app. I just lost $5.00 by making the Roku a Wyze. Where would I go for support? ---
**Author:** ![peepeep](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/peepeep/32/107148_2.png) [@peepeep](https://forums.wyze.com/u/peepeep)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-cams-so-much-wyze/278043/9 "2024-04-14T22:40:50Z")
Oh, well, logic. Can’t argue with that. (Quitter. 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![StevenA](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/stevena/32/98871_2.png) [@StevenA](https://forums.wyze.com/u/StevenA)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-cams-so-much-wyze/278043/10 "2024-04-14T22:41:17Z")
Here is a Wired article on the partnership from 2022. > **[Roku's Smart Camera Lets You Keep an Eye on Your Yard](https://www.wired.com/story/roku-smart-home-news-october-2022/)** > > The manufacturer of well-priced TV streaming devices has partnered with Wyze to release affordable cameras, smart plugs, and smart lights. ---
**Author:** ![ScubaChris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/scubachris/32/41610_2.png) [@ScubaChris](https://forums.wyze.com/u/ScubaChris)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-cams-so-much-wyze/278043/11 "2024-11-27T18:09:20Z")
So how do we bypass that code? Because, truthfully, this entire situation is ridiculous. Ppl are getting low-key screwed because they look exactly the same, down to the packaging, and even though, yes they should and could do a little research, why would they? They look exactly the same, cost the same, etc. It’s just not good business- for the consumer, I mean. I’m sure Wyze has made a bundle with the license rights and passed the sav…. Ok no that’s not happened but I bet a salesman got a promo to VP and the big bosses get a Cpl more Million+- per year, tell me I’m wrong?!? ---
**Author:** ![habib](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/habib/32/110070_2.png) [@habib](https://forums.wyze.com/u/habib)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-cams-so-much-wyze/278043/12 "2024-11-27T18:56:15Z")
Judging by resurrecting multiple old threads, did you get burned by picking up a Rocku camera hoping it would work in the Wyze’s ecosystem, or vice versa? ---
**Author:** ![carverofchoice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/carverofchoice/32/107068_2.png) [@carverofchoice](https://forums.wyze.com/u/carverofchoice)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/roku-cams-so-much-wyze/278043/13 "2024-11-27T23:39:20Z")
I won’t say it’s impossible to overcome secure boot limitations, but it’s beyond the capabilities of most people. I certainly couldn’t do it without following a walkthrough and people smarter than me haven’t overcome it in the Wyze cams yet. I’ve been following project Thingino which has discussed how it’s possible to bypass secure boot. > [@](#): > > ## Conditionally Supported Hardware > > Some brands protect their cameras by writing a secret key into the OTP area of the SoC. They digitally sign the installed firmware with a matching key, so that replacing the pre-installed firmware with one that is not signed with the same key will render the camera unusable, unless you replace the SoC with a new, undamaged one. > > ### Roku Indoor Camera SE > > ![17327502942882037272543402950996](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/original/3X/d/2/d2f85ae7a9bbe52c743b87538b3768da424252ce.jpeg) > > T31X, GC2053, ATBM6031, 16MB > > **All tested units had Secure Boot.** So basically, you can try to figure out the “secret key” in the OTP of the SOC and make the firmware match that, or you can replace the SOC with like kind that doesn’t have secure boot in it, and then you can flash the firmware. Seems easier to just buy a new camera at Black Friday rates though.