# Purchase only Hub and Motion sensors **URL:** \ **Category:** Sensors\ **Tags:** sense-hub, motion-sensor-v2\ **Created:** [May 15, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/purchase-only-hub-and-motion-sensors/267193 "2023-05-15T15:58:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PanCamJeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@PanCamJeff](https://forums.wyze.com/u/PanCamJeff)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/purchase-only-hub-and-motion-sensors/267193/1 "2023-05-15T15:58:57Z")
Is there yet a way to purchase a hub without everything in a “starter kit”? I am interested in installing a bunch of motion sensors, which can apparently be ordered individually, but cannot seem to find a way to buy a hub. I don’t need or want to pay for all that extra gear that comes with a “starter kit”. ---
**Author:** ![WildBill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/wildbill/32/41408_2.png) [@WildBill](https://forums.wyze.com/u/WildBill)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/purchase-only-hub-and-motion-sensors/267193/2 "2023-05-15T16:50:33Z")
Not so far. Need to subscribe to HMS to get the starter kit that includes the hub. ---
**Author:** ![SlabSlayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@SlabSlayer](https://forums.wyze.com/u/SlabSlayer)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/purchase-only-hub-and-motion-sensors/267193/3 "2023-05-16T01:16:11Z")
No, despite many users requesting it. Right now, there are only two choices: 1. Build your own system thru the Wyze Website Store, forced to buy a subscription (monthly), and then cancel it.; or 2. Wyze Home Security Starter Kit from a Big Box or online retailer, scrap the keypad, and never activate the trial subscription. Here are the links to the #Wishlist requests: > [@New Wyze Sense as a Standalone Hub and Sensor System](https://forums.wyze.com/t/new-wyze-sense-as-a-standalone-hub-and-sensor-system/184325): > > Don’t see any listing for this so adding it to the wishlist, I would like to see the new Wyze Sense sensor system act as a stand alone system where you don’t need the home monitoring service, since you no longer sell the old system with the bridge it would only be logical to make the new system work as a stand alone if that’s what the user wants, If they want the home monitoring that’s fine they can still use it, but I don’t see the need for it when the old system that just sent notifications to… > [@Wyze sense bundle should be available without keypad if not using monitoring](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-sense-bundle-should-be-available-without-keypad-if-not-using-monitoring/216921): > > I wish you would make the Wyze sense bundle should be available without the keypad if not using monitoring. Since it is available on its own, one could add it if adding the monitoring. Why force people to get a piece they won’t be able to use without the monitoring. ---
**Author:** ![jonz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/94ad74/32.png) [@jonz](https://forums.wyze.com/u/jonz)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/purchase-only-hub-and-motion-sensors/267193/4 "2023-06-19T18:58:12Z")
Just on a “chat” with Wyze for over 45 minutes. The hub is listed on the Wyze store for $29.99. ![Screen Shot 2023-06-19 at 11.27.27 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/original/3X/2/1/21270d57d017b03945f558c6e75259f97ca36ffb.png) This indicates to me that this is a product which you can buy - standalone - That’s sort of how things work on the web in most cases. But it only leads you to a point to where you must subscribe. As a note, I have been a Wyze customer for many years and own over 30 cameras plus a lot of their other products (unhappy with the latest wyze cam v3 pan which keeps going offline). But I think this is close to a bait and switch tactic in order to sell their subscription which I do NOT want. Unfortunately I am pretty much invested in Wyze technology, but I think I will take a break at the moment. Very, very unhappy with Wyze. As a note this was the response from Wyze: Because As of the moment, the Wyze Sense Hub can only be purchased alongside a Home Monitoring Service subscription, monthly or annual. Our website does not have the option to have the Sense Hub stand-alone by itself. Should there be any plans to make the Sense Hub available for purchase as a standalone product, we will be sure to let you know." ---
**Author:** ![WildBill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/wildbill/32/41408_2.png) [@WildBill](https://forums.wyze.com/u/WildBill)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/purchase-only-hub-and-motion-sensors/267193/5 "2023-06-19T21:30:49Z")
This continues to be an issue for HMS. Many want to just purchase the hub and can’t. You can probably find the starter kit (hub, contact and motion sensors) but not just the hub at HomeDepot, like this: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/original/3X/6/6/661fb93108f0200bbd82e293e248bb7f20e38d4d.png) Or from eBay: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/original/3X/3/e/3eaaec790b60894f682e6a36bde3c93cd9dcf442.jpeg)