# Motion sensor vs sense **URL:** \ **Category:** Sensors\ **Tags:** not-platform-specific\ **Created:** [January 12, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716 "2020-01-12T23:23:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![paindonthurt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/paindonthurt/32/14342_2.png) [@paindonthurt](https://forums.wyze.com/u/paindonthurt)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/1 "2020-01-12T23:23:41Z")
Does anyone else feel that sense is much more accurate and a better trigger than motion sensor. I have zero issues with my 3 sense devices triggering etc… But my motion sensors give me fits constantly. I have a sense 2 ft from a motion sensor. The sense shows 3 bars and the motion shows 1. The other motion shows 1 also and it’s 10 feet from either of the other two. Motion sensors fit my needs very well but need them to work. And you can’t do FW updates to sensors so they are what they are. Hoping for a motion sensor v2 that’s much better. So, am I the only one with this issue? I did everything support said and still no better. Thanks for any and all suggestions and help. ---
**Author:** ![qlang243](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/b19c9b/32.png) [@qlang243](https://forums.wyze.com/u/qlang243)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/2 "2020-01-12T23:37:56Z")
This isn’t clear. Are you comparing sense contact sensor and **sense** motion sensor? Or a camera motion detector and **sense** motion sensor? ---
**Author:** ![paindonthurt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/paindonthurt/32/14342_2.png) [@paindonthurt](https://forums.wyze.com/u/paindonthurt)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/3 "2020-01-12T23:43:42Z")
Sense contact and sense motion detector. I said you couldn’t update FW so I thought I was being clear. You can update FW on cams. And personally I think it was pretty clear. I never once mentioned cameras. I said motion sensors. Sorry I didn’t say SENSE motion sensors. ---
**Author:** ![paindonthurt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/paindonthurt/32/14342_2.png) [@paindonthurt](https://forums.wyze.com/u/paindonthurt)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/4 "2020-01-13T03:21:11Z")
I’m using a sense motion sensor. I’ve been through the rules and I’m trying to figure something out. If the motion continues even if I have a time limit set the light goes out. Is there a way to write the rule that as long as there is motion the light will stay on and then once the motion stops the light will stay on for an additional two minutes. @Loki ---
**Author:** ![gku2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/gku2/32/26578_2.png) [@gku2](https://forums.wyze.com/u/gku2)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/5 "2020-01-13T03:21:29Z")
With the motion sensors to get a strong connection signal I had to rotate the motion sensor a quarter turn and check each time witch give me the strongest signal. I used a plastic tube to limit the detection angle to prevent false trips or a sort. ---
**Author:** ![paindonthurt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/paindonthurt/32/14342_2.png) [@paindonthurt](https://forums.wyze.com/u/paindonthurt)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/6 "2020-01-13T03:23:20Z")
You got a pick? I’d be interested to see exactly how you did it. Thanks for the tip ---
**Author:** ![paindonthurt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/paindonthurt/32/14342_2.png) [@paindonthurt](https://forums.wyze.com/u/paindonthurt)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/7 "2020-01-13T03:27:10Z")
There’s been no motion in that room for approximately 20 minutes and the sense motion sensor is still saying motion so I believe I had a defective motion sensor. And sent a support ticket and went through all of the steps that they told me to go through and they didn’t do anything. So I replied to them about that and I’m waiting for their reply ---
**Author:** ![gku2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/gku2/32/26578_2.png) [@gku2](https://forums.wyze.com/u/gku2)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/8 "2020-01-13T03:59:14Z")
Scroll down to see my posts. > [@Outdoor rated Wyze Sense](https://forums.wyze.com/t/outdoor-rated-wyze-sense/28917): > > Please develop outdoor rated Wyze Sense motion and contact sensors. They could be used to trigger alert videos for cameras that are inside facing out through a window. The motion sensors could be used in unsheltered areas and the contact sensors could be used for things like outdoor gates, etc. Because of this I virtually turned off motion detect on the cam associated with the bridge/sensors. Finding and setting the area that has minimum false trips in the detection zone of the cam with the least false trips. Letting the benefit of the motion sensors I placed at strategic locations do it’s job… Sir. In return this has minimized my false tripping notifications greatly… ---
**Author:** ![paindonthurt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/paindonthurt/32/14342_2.png) [@paindonthurt](https://forums.wyze.com/u/paindonthurt)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/9 "2020-01-13T04:11:17Z")
Here are my settings for the cam with the bridge ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/original/3X/c/7/c7e82028a345221347b0d91e7bb5ec1a61e3b53a.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/original/3X/a/b/abaee6f0a0c0f277297bd6bd3412ac79656bb1f7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![qlang243](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/b19c9b/32.png) [@qlang243](https://forums.wyze.com/u/qlang243)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/10 "2020-01-13T05:26:13Z")
> [@paindonthurt](#): > > no motion in that room for approximately 20 minutes and the sense motion sensor is still saying motion Lots of things give off IR, not just people. Any transient sources of heat in that room? Heater vent and the like? ---
**Author:** ![paindonthurt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/paindonthurt/32/14342_2.png) [@paindonthurt](https://forums.wyze.com/u/paindonthurt)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/11 "2020-01-13T05:30:53Z")
Heat vent on floor about 4-5 diagonal from sensor. Here’s the thing. It worked properly for 2 weeks. Then this all started 4 days ago. ---
**Author:** ![paindonthurt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/paindonthurt/32/14342_2.png) [@paindonthurt](https://forums.wyze.com/u/paindonthurt)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/12 "2020-01-13T05:44:07Z")
It’s still showing motion since 9:52. Absolutely no movement in there. It’s the mud room between hall and garage. Both doors shut. No lights on in garage or hallway. Just trying to give as much info as possible to come up with a solution. But like I said before I think it’s went bad for whatever reason. ---
**Author:** ![gku2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/gku2/32/26578_2.png) [@gku2](https://forums.wyze.com/u/gku2)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/13 "2020-01-13T06:08:28Z")
Sound like one of them Wyze cam anornalies…? ---
**Author:** ![paindonthurt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/paindonthurt/32/14342_2.png) [@paindonthurt](https://forums.wyze.com/u/paindonthurt)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/14 "2020-01-13T06:12:12Z")
May I ask why you think the cam and not the sensor itself? With 1 sense motion sensor and 3 sense contact sensors all working fine to me it points to the 1 sensor not working ? ---
**Author:** ![gku2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/gku2/32/26578_2.png) [@gku2](https://forums.wyze.com/u/gku2)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/15 "2020-01-13T11:24:36Z")
I’d delete and or replace the sensor and see if it makes any difference … Process of elimination. ---
**Author:** ![Loki](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/loki/32/1595_2.png) [@Loki](https://forums.wyze.com/u/Loki)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/16 "2020-01-13T12:06:57Z")
> [@paindonthurt](#): > > Is there a way to write the rule that as long as there is motion the light will stay on and then once the motion stops the light will stay on for an additional two minutes. Yes there is. Two rules: Rule #1: TRIGGER: MySensor Detects Motion. ACTION: Bulb - Turn On Rule #2: TRIGGER: MySensor has been clear for 00:02:00. ACTION: Bulb - Turn Off. ---
**Author:** ![paindonthurt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/paindonthurt/32/14342_2.png) [@paindonthurt](https://forums.wyze.com/u/paindonthurt)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/17 "2020-01-13T04:18:35Z")
I believe my sense motion sensor is bad. I did all the trouble shooting they suggested. I also deleted the sensor and rules and re added them. I replaced the battery. What else? My other motion sensor works fine and all my sense devices work fine. [MOD NOTE: cross-post relocated here.] ---
**Author:** ![paindonthurt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/paindonthurt/32/14342_2.png) [@paindonthurt](https://forums.wyze.com/u/paindonthurt)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/18 "2020-01-13T04:21:49Z")
This is what I’m getting in a closed room. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/original/3X/d/e/de8b6d226946432cf5d9c3bed07954116d152381.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Loki](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/loki/32/1595_2.png) [@Loki](https://forums.wyze.com/u/Loki)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/19 "2020-01-13T12:21:29Z")
A maximum effort reset would involve: 1. Delete the motion sensor 2. Delete the bridge 3. Delete the camera 4. Remove battery from motion sensor 5. Remove bridge from camera 6. Un-power the camera 7. Add the camera 8. Install and add the bridge 9. Insert battery in motion sensor and add it. That’s all I can think of to try at this point. ---
**Author:** ![gku2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/wyze/user_avatar/forums.wyze.com/gku2/32/26578_2.png) [@gku2](https://forums.wyze.com/u/gku2)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716/20 "2020-01-13T12:42:15Z")
Also with a couple of my motion sensors I rotated them 90 degrees at a time and recheck the signal strength. They went from 1 bar to 3, if I remember correctly the right side of the motion senor faced towards the bridge gave me a 3 bar. hum, … also I’m assuming you check on spiders and bugs? [Next page](https://forums.wyze.com/t/motion-sensor-vs-sense/83716.md?page=2)