Know your Knowses! 🄸

  • JPGR
  • PJGR
  • GJPR
  • RJGP
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I would make this a WORKING poll but I can’t figure it out (it’s too HARD!) :wink:

(Working solution found. See below.)

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4!=4Ɨ3Ɨ2Ɨ1=24

Is this something math people know without looking it up? :nerd_face:

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Statement depends on if ā€œ!ā€ is factorial or Boolean NOT. Need some spacing.

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True. Could be correct-ish (if the second ā€œequalsā€ condition is separated) both ways:

4 != 4 Ɨ 3 Ɨ 2 Ɨ 1 :check_mark: or 4 != 24 :check_mark:

4! = 4 Ɨ 3 Ɨ 2 Ɨ 1 :check_mark: or 4! = 24 :check_mark:

Definitely the spacing makes a difference. :+1:

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This is too long – and there’s only 20: the max Discourse allows.

I could provide maybe four from which to choose. But which four? I would probably just throw-a-dart it.

:bullseye:

JPGR, JPRG, JGPR, JGRP, JRPQ, JRGQ
PJGR, PJRG, PGJR, PGRJ, PRGJ, PRJG
GJPR, GJRP, GPJR, GPRJ, GRPJ, GRJP
RJGP, RJPG, RGJP, RGPJ, RPJG, RPGJ

What would a math gal do? :slight_smile:

(I may be more like a math gal than a math guy, I’m thinking, but have no idea, really. Maybe I should ask @dave27[1] :slight_smile: )

(or @StopICU33 , I haven’t seen them in a while. :waving_hand: )

(@towelkingdom is math-ish, at least, and often game :slight_smile: )

(@carverofchoice has been known to calculate. :waving_hand: )

(@bam slams the universe, as I recall. :telescope: )


  1. Word of the Day - #872 by dave27 ā†©ļøŽ

My grandkids have been holding me hostage. :winking_face_with_tongue:

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School them on the Geneva Convention. You have (soft) rights. :wink:

Ah, well, another day at the talking to myself (as @habib puts it.) Til later, übermenschen. :wink:

Clearly, not everything works. Offense risked but not intended. Apologies to one and all. :man_bowing: :slight_smile:

Yeah, mostly with Excel or programming.
For complicated stuff, I’ll either ask my wife (who has a master’s in Math), or have an AI program a complex calculation [in Python].

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For whatever it’s worth, I like to ask Wolfram|Alpha about mathy stuffs.

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I worry that if the big beautiful plan goes awry, power goes out and stays out and we have to pull answers out of our… memory, unassisted, there may be nothing there.

Or more probably, not enough.

Back to knowing knowses, I thought, do I or did I know or can I conjure it on the fly without consulting the beast (search assistant is as far as I go and not always) and I came up with ā€˜no’ and ā€˜no’ and ā€˜maybe’ but wasn’t compelled enough to tackle it, was more interested in non-math aspects of the post, so relented and here’s what the beast spewed out.

[I lost it. Maybe I’ll find it again, I don’t know.]

I knew I could ask it to choose four instances ā€˜intelligently’ and it would return something I would assume was informed but that I wouldn’t critique and there’s the rub.

The more you use it the less you critique it. It’s the expert, you’re not. It’s inevitable.

We’ve delegated the load to our electronic appendages (and infrastructure) as if they’ll always be there.

Maybe we should remember things natively, too.

Why not.

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By the way, when I cut the Beatles’ noses from their Rubber Soul and rearranged them I didn’t keep track so I didn’t have a ā€˜key.’ Would you have done that?

I later took the test myself and feel confident I’ve got it right but who nose?

I’ve been wrong before. :slight_smile:

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Fixed that for you. :rofl:

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:rofl:

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ā€œWeā€ have common sense. By the time the world goes awry, we’ll be dead. :rofl:

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peep.

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I have Wolfram Alpha but don’t use it much. My formal math education went as far as Algebra, basic geometry, Statistics, and programming logic.

I never really learned Trig, Calculus, etc :frowning:

Conventional Math classes were difficult for me to get through with my ADHD. Basically every single one of them gave pointless homework to do the same formula dozens of times with little to no real world use case. The excessive pointless redundancy is death to ADHD motivation. I learned a lot better using it in programming and Excel settings where it actually did something useful and observable.

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That is very sad to hear. :face_with_diagonal_mouth: For example, when teaching factorials in probability and statistics class, the teacher should have started the class with a common problem in plain English, like using one die, progress to two dice, then a deck of cards, and end with playing the lottery. Then show how you just learned factorials in math-ese.