# Cameras are in the trash

**URL:** <https://forums.wyze.com/t/cameras-are-in-the-trash/277010>\
**Category:** Cameras\
**Tags:** cam-v1-v2, cam-outdoor-v1, iphone-ipad\
**Created:** [September 30, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/cameras-are-in-the-trash/277010 "2023-09-30T18:13:22Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.wyze.com/t/cameras-are-in-the-trash/277010/52 "2023-10-23T00:05:16Z")

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> When I can’t use the zone stuff very easily with the cam pan V3 can I?

Indeed. A PTZ cam brings added complications when the DZ can only be set for one specific FOV Home Position and does not adapt to a new FOV Waypoint or full range Pan Scan \ Track Motion range of movement. One of the inherent limitations of a PTZ cam.

In this use case, in an outdoor application with a high degree of ancillary environmental movement, a static FOV fixed cam is the better choice for installation.

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> And the chimes are much too large and everywhere to be able to do that anyway without making it unable to tag vehicles in the driveway.

It appears that the chimes need to be relocated. You chose to place a Cam with an FOV that has high movement frequency. The single most important decision made for a security cam before tuning any of the settings on the cam is where it is placed. Placement and FOV is 80% or more of it’s effectiveness. Poorly placed cams get poor results.

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> And I can’t block out the area of the driveway that I park in because what if I’m gone and someone else parks there that shouldn’t be there?

I have this exact situation. I have PanV3 that is trained on where I park my work vehicle outdoors. The Vehicle Detection is off, Person Detection is on… I then have one V3 and another PanV3 trained on the driveway and entrance to my driveway, but not where I park. These have Vehicle and Person Detections on. Should a vehicle pull into my driveway, I am notified by 2 cams before that vehicle makes it to where I park my work vehicle. Cam placement and FOV determines how effective they will be under the limitations the cams have.

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> They should only tag moving vehicles anyway like when they’re pulling in or pulling out and things like that like they used to

Wyze cams have never operated this way. They have always tagged all objects detected regardless of movement. The fact that it didn’t tag your vehicle initially indicates it wasn’t working at all before.

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> they had taken down a comment regarding that camera

Wyze doesn’t Moderate this forum. It is Moderated by a team of Community Volunteers who themselves are experienced users of a large majority of Wyze devices. They will only moderate a post if it violates the stated [Community Guidelines](https://forums.wyze.com/t/wyze-community-guidelines/6796). When this does happen, if you feel it was in error or not warranted, you do have the opportunity to Direct Message the Moderator Team to discuss the issue.

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> And my production model of the floodlight Pro

I’m glad you mentioned the Floodlight Pro. I have two of them. We have discussed your settings on the FLP in other threads. Tuning the Floodlight Pro is a completely different experience because of it’s onboard AI and feature settings that will only activate the lights when a specific AI object is recognized by the onboard AI.

But, what I wanted to point out is that the FLP is the first Wyze Cam that will “ignore” a stationary AI object… somewhat. Using your car as an example: If you have Vehicle, Person, and Pet Detection enabled for AI Event uploading AND for Floodlight Activation with basic Motion Detection uploads on, if any one of those single objects is detected moving within the frame, it will activate the lights and tag any one of those three, or all three, be it stationary or not. However, if your wind chimes create motion, or a tree waving, or leaves blowing, etc, and it is not identified as one of the AI objects within the percentage of accuracy set within the Firmware, the upload will still happen but the stationary AI objects will not be tagged. It takes another moving AI object to be tagged in order for it to tag a stationary AI object.

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> and it comes on by itself sometimes with no notification

Completely normal when you have the sensitivity set to 100. The FLP onboard AI cannot operate effectively when it is being overloaded with motion event input. The FLP sensitivity is calibrated completely different than a standard Wyze Cam. It is incredibly sensitive if tuned properly.

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